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"If you look at creation and you examine it, examine the stars even. I live close to a helicopter factory and they're one of the major helicopter suppliers in the world and one of the engineers. I knew him, he wasn't even a Christian, but he knew I was. And he told. He made a point to tell me that the Hubble telescope photographed a small patch of dark sky. The light sky was too light. It would have damaged the telescope."