Living with kidney disease is not easy, but its a journey shared by many. In a compelling exchange between KidneyTalk® host Lori Hartwell and Jennifer Cramer Miller, author of Incurable Optimist: Living with Illness and Chronic Hope, striking parallels emerge in their respective multiple kidney transplant experiences. So, grab a seat, relax, and tune in to their engaging discussion as they delve into the art of cultivating optimism, drawing insights from their expertise on the subject.