Transformational vs. Transactional: Lessons from Education, Events, and Real Estate

Episode Overview

In this episode of the Ironclad Underwriting Podcast, host Jason Williams is joined by his wife and business partner, Angel Williams, along with fellow partner and former educator, Frank Patalano. Together, they dive into the importance of continuous education, the role of real estate events, and the mindset shifts that separate transactional hustling from transformational growth.

From lessons learned at national conferences to the power of mentorship and mindset, this conversation offers practical takeaways for both new and seasoned investors. Whether you’re looking to expand your knowledge base, connect with like-minded professionals, or learn from others’ mistakes instead of your own, this episode is packed with insights.

🗂 Topics Covered

• The value of education and networking in real estate investing
• Why some investors only learn through their own mistakes
• Transactional vs. transformational approaches in business and life
• How events and summits accelerate growth and shorten the learning curve
• The role of mindset in achieving long-term success

💡 Memorable Quotes

1. “You can’t coach somebody who doesn’t want it. You can talk till you’re blue in the face, and it’s not going to matter.” — Jason Williams
2. “Education and networking are super important aspects of every single part of all my businesses right now.” — Frank Patalano
3. “People aren’t always going to remember what you said or what you did, but they’re always going to remember how you made them feel.” — Maya Angelou

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