February 2021: New Zealand Māori Chief Wiremu Te Awe Awe and his wife Trieste Te Awe Awe in an intercultural dialogue around democracy and freedom

In this first podcast of 2021, Udo virtually travels to Missoula’s sister city Palmerston North in New Zealand to have a conversation discussing the idea of democracy itself, what strengthens and weakens democracy and how the concept of democracy relates to indigenous communities, like Chief Te Awe Awe’s tribal family, which has an 800-year history.