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What is going on with Supernatural? A discussion about fandom spaces with Nicole, a real-life anthropologist

Author
Sandra and Kasey
Published
Tue 04 Feb 2025
Episode Link
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/idlingintheimpala/episodes/What-is-going-on-with-Supernatural--A-discussion-about-fandom-spaces-with-Nicole--a-real-life-anthropologist-e2teckr

Sandra and Kasey talked with someone who has gone all in to explore the results of fanfiction and collaboration colliding in an online community. This episode features a lively and in-depth discussion of the fandom ecosystem and collective cognition with anthropologist Nicole. Nicole completed research that studied a FanFic-centric Supernatural Discord server and its members. No, not Idling’s. However, Nicole’s dissertation highlighted many topics that are often touched upon in this podcast. 

Cause really, if there isn’t group griping and despair about the writing process, is it even fanfic?

Related Discussion Links and Contact Info

Nicole can be contacted via email and on Bluesky

Nicole’s episode reference doc 

Transformative Works and Cultures - Transformative Works and Cultures (TWC) is an international, peer-reviewed journal published by the Organization for Transformative Works. TWC publishes articles about transformative works, broadly conceived and articles about the fan community.

An IITI episode with MJ (Incog_Ninja) about Sexual Agency in FanFic

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Chapter Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:02:28 - The researcher behind the study

00:05:07 - Nicole’s personal fandom and fanfic journey

00:10:08 - Lurking and the methods of anthropology

00:17:46 - Why observe a SPN FanFic Discord server?

00:33:09 - The art of researching people

00:42:34 - Digital anonymity

00:54:54 - How the research changed?

01:02:50 - Collective cognition

01:22:25 - The self-promotional aspect of creating

01:28:39 - Reader norms and culture

01:46:18 - The collaboration of fanfic creation

01:52:38 - How much agency do fanfic writers have over their blorbos?

01:55:23 - How do writers write for their reader insert audience?

02:00:23 - The magic of reality in fiction

02:02:39 - Is Dean Winchester running the show?

02:07:57 - Who has ownership over a fictional character?

02:13:24 - How fanatical is the Supernatural fandom?

02:25:22 - How fanon influences canon

02:30:20 - Nicole’s final research thoughts

02:33:45 - Closing thoughts and outro

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