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345 | Finding Hidden Opportunities in Customer Behavior | with Sam Shames

Author
Shopify Expert Chase Clymer
Published
Mon 01 Sep 2025
Episode Link
https://honestecommerce.co/episodes/345-finding-hidden-opportunities-in-customer-behavior-with-sam-shames-4D8NJGHs

Sam Shames is the Co-Founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Embr Labs, the company behind the Embr Wave: a wristband that heats and cools to help people manage comfort, sleep, stress, and hot flashes.

What started as a project in an MIT prototyping competition turned into a 12-year journey building a hardware company from scratch. Along the way, Sam and his co-founders grew Embr Labs to 200,000+ units sold, $50M+ in lifetime revenue, and $66M in venture funding. A $100K Kickstarter goal became $630K in sales, powered by a loyal community they engaged long before launch.

Sam’s path blends technical innovation with customer-driven growth. From proving the science behind their product, to surviving on $2K a month while raising capital, to pivoting into a hardware subscription model, he’s learned what it really takes to scale an ecommerce hardware brand.

Whether you’re building a DTC product, validating a new idea, or evolving your business model to better serve customers, Sam offers an unfiltered look at the grind, the pivots, and the lessons behind turning a student prototype into a category-defining company.

In This Conversation We Discuss:

  • [00:42] Intro
  • [01:03] Sharing early lessons in subscription
  • [01:34] Connecting through founder communities
  • [02:26] Brainstorming solutions to real pain points
  • [03:21] Receiving thousands of customer emails
  • [03:58] Deciding to sell when demand was clear
  • [04:52] Realizing experience changes decisions
  • [05:14] Understanding the customer segments
  • [06:34] Raising angel and pre-seed funding
  • [07:41] Building community through early feedback
  • [08:53] Episode Sponsors: Electric Eye, Heatmap, Grow
  • [12:05] Preparing manufacturing before crowdfunding
  • [14:10] Adapting playbooks as channels change
  • [15:36] Spotting misalignment in value capture
  • [18:00] Screening customers to limit fraud
  • [19:08] Partnering with experts on subscriptions
  • [19:51] Highlighting temperature as a daily pain point
  • [21:32] Showing value instantly on first try

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