Chas Licciardello (Planet America co-host) is our special guest. We discuss why Australians care about American politics, what got Donald Betts Jnr into politics as a Kansas State Senator and how he came to be an Australian. And we reflect on Joe Hockey's musings about the differences between America and Australia.

In this episode, we talked about the genesis of Greenland (the podcast), what got Donald Betts Jnr into politics and how he ended up living and working in Melbourne, Australia. We're delighted to welcome our inaugural guest, Chas Licciardello - co-host of the Australian ABC weekly show, Planet America.

Links mentioned:

• Chas Licciardello's Osama bin Laden stunt on Chaser's War on Everything 
• The Jimmy Dore Show
• 'Americans need to chill. What Americans can learn from Australia', SMH article 30 October 2019
• Planet America - weekly US politics discussion panel, hosted by Chas Licciardello and John Barron.