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73 | 🚨 Why Most Customer Experience Metrics Are DEAD WRONG (And What Actually Moves Revenue) with Paula Courtney (Verde Group)

Author
Neeta Bidwai
Published
Tue 18 Feb 2025
Episode Link
https://shows.acast.com/good-revenue/episodes/73-from-friction-to-customer-experiences-that-drive-revenue-

Paula Courtney, CEO of Verde Group, improves customer experiences at Fortune 100 firms by identifying and addressing friction points that impact revenue & retention across industries like retail, financial services, manufacturing, telecom, and aerospace.


In this episode of Good Revenue, host Neeta Bidwai and Paula cover:

  • How to identify which customer interactions truly impact business outcomes, moving beyond surface-level satisfaction metrics.
  • The critical role of negative experiences in predicting customer behavior, triggering either flight or fight responses.
  • Why traditional metrics like NPS and CSAT alone fail to capture the full picture of customer relationships.
  • The challenge of maintaining brand consistency across proliferating digital and in-person channels.
  • Why synthetic research tools, while valuable, can't fully replace direct customer engagement through surveys and focus groups.
  • The increasing pressure to link customer experience initiatives with tangible financial outcomes.
  • How successful organizations balance automated processes with the human touch that customers still crave.


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Where to find Paula:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/paula-courtney-3b23861/ 


Where to find Neeta:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/neetabidwai/


Where to find Good Revenue:

https://goodrevenue.io/goodrevenue

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHrhuWbpYnUwrR75H2Ip4yQ


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Highlights:

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:27 Understanding Customer Friction

01:55 The Importance of Talking to Customers

04:10 Omni-Channel Customer Experience

06:10 Predictors of Customer Behavior

12:39 Case Study: Hand Soap Company

16:54 Effective Customer Experience Metrics

30:04 AI and the Future of Customer Experience

32:38 Lightning Round Questions


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Referenced:

AI’s effect on customer experience: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/The-Verde-Edition---January-2025--Vol--30.html?soid=1115682176163&aid=cj_zmqp7kao 

The Verde Group: https://verdegroup.com/ 


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