Flesh and Bone/Poetry and Magic

Gloria talks to her friend Callie Gardner, poet, editor, critic, teacher. We cover 'ss' sounds, teaching literature, the existence of magic (in poetry and elsewhere),the politics of editing, tentacles and psychoanalysis. The poem referred to at the start is Laurel Uziell's 'The amount of brain in the bone'. Other books referred to/read are CA Conrad's 'While Standing in Line for Death' and Nuar Alsadir's 'Fourth Person Singular'.