In this episode Will is joined by Kieran @shinykiwitcg2622 . They begin by updating everyone on Moana's Pokemon card journey and what Will is going to do next with her. After that they talk about doing it tough financially and being a collector at the same time. They then move on to talking about the issues selling high end/ expensive boxes is going to have after the CT scan services were announced. They finish the episode talking about the madness in the hobby during the pandemic including the overgrading of base cards. If you'd like to listen in on two long time collectors catching up then this episode is for you.