134 - Jared Lee - Faith, Philosophy, and Forming Your Own Code

What does it really mean to "feed your heart"?

In this episode, I sat down with my friend Jared Lee to unpack one of the deepest conversations we’ve had on the show yet—one that weaves through philosophy, religion, suffering, and the pursuit of meaning. We explore how ancient thinkers like Plato and C.S. Lewis believed in the power of the “chest”—the seat of emotion, conviction, and moral clarity—and how modern society often leaves that part of us malnourished.

We dive into world religions—Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, and even atheism—not to convert, but to understand. To see what drives people to their knees in prayer, to mountains in solitude, or to sacrifice comfort for something they believe is worth suffering for. This conversation isn’t about dogma—it’s about desire. About what you’re willing to endure, not just enjoy.

Jared shares the Latin root of “passion” (patior: to suffer), and we look at how true joy often comes not from avoiding pain but choosing the right kind of pain—the kind that builds character, connection, and clarity.

If you're seeking more than just goals, if you’re after depth, direction, and a reason to keep going when the path gets hard—this episode is for you.

5 Key Takeaways:

1. True Passion Involves Sacrifice: Without something you're willing to suffer for, desire remains shallow. Passion is proven in the pain you choose.
2. You Are More Than Your Mind or Appetite: Plato’s tripartite soul reminds us that humans are not just logic (mind) and desire (belly)—but must also develop the chest, the heart, where purpose lives.
3. Different Beliefs, Common Ground: Whether you're religious or not, many systems point to similar moral frameworks: self-discipline, service, love, and the pursuit of joy over pleasure.
4. Joy Is Found Through Alignment, Not Escape: Luxury, status, and indulgence can numb you. Real joy comes when your actions align with your values.
5. Discipline and Consistency Are Spiritual Practices: Religion isn’t just belief—it’s routine. The same virtues that build your body build your soul.

You’re not done.
You’re just getting started.

Let’s keep getting after it.

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