Ben and Don are joined by a very special mystery (to Ben) guest, Jane Talkington, author of Recognizing Botulism: New Insights from Old Narratives. After an always embarrassing game of 20 questions, they dive right into Jane's book, how she came to be interested in historical bot cases as well as the stories around research into antitoxin and the food safety world's understanding of the pathogen. Jane shares her personal connection to a bot victim as well as many accounts of the long term impacts of the toxin on people. Don figured Ben would be way into these tales and anecdotes and he was right.