In this episode Don and Ben jump right in and do a deep dive on the media coverage of food safety-related outbreaks and recalls. The guys talk about participating in some recent national news interviews and providing background on whether there are more outbreaks right now (there aren't) and if not, why is everyone talking about food safety (the guys have some guesses). The conversation goes to being a public figure as an academic and how to build those skills. Don and Ben also talk about food science/food safety students exploring the career of regulation. The show ends on a discussion of a raw milk linked recall due to contamination with Avian Influenza virus.