Hope, Hurt, and Holy Soil

What happens when two friends try to bridge the gap between cosmic hope and personal hurt—without losing either?

In this deeply introspective follow-up to Composting Kingdom Soul, Robby and Ernie return to explore the fragile terrain between understanding and being understood. As Robby unpacks his passion for regenerative creation care and the revelation of the “sons of God” from Romans 8:18–21, Ernie confesses the ache of feeling unseen—like soil passed over in pursuit of the sky.

What unfolds is less a debate and more a relational tilling—turning over frustrations, fears, and hopes in search of something richer than agreement: connection.

In this conversation:

• Robby reflects on Romans 8 and the groaning of creation.
• Ernie shares his fear of being treated like an object to be used rather than a person to be loved.
• Together they ask:
   Is our hope truly in Christ in us—or in the ideas we love most?

Raw, rambling, and redemptive—this is a podcast about becoming before convincing.

Scriptural Anchors:

• Romans 8:18–21 – The creation groans, waiting for the sons of God to be revealed
• Genesis 1:28 – The original call to be fruitful, multiply, and steward
• Colossians 1:27 – Christ in you, the hope of glory
• John 17:22–23 – That they may be one, as we are one
• 1 Corinthians 8:1–13 – On food sacrificed to idols and the conscience
• Philippians 2:5–8 – Christ emptied himself
• John 15:1–5 – Abide in me and bear much fruit

Listen if you’re wrestling with the tension between loving the world… and loving the people right in front of you.