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"So I got the one that had the back of it where it was bent up, you know, and you could do wheelies and stuff on it. Well, back then, we had a local guy that used to come down to the hill, and he used to skate with us, and his name was Mike, and he was a local surfer. He used to go down to the beach a lot, and he started surfing and everything. Then I got interested in the surfing."