Episode 7.28 -- Privacy Not Included, in pretty much anything

Two years ago we interviewed Jen Caltrider, head of Mozilla foundation's Privacy Not Included group and got an earful about how bad Meta's privacy was in its products. This year we caught up to Jen and she said they are still bad, but in two years they've been surpassed by Amazon and Google. Before you head out to buy those IoT gifts for Christmas, you might want to listen to this podcast and then check out the site.