Krista Vernoff, executive producer and former showrunner of Grey’s Anatomy, is bored of people who aren’t women over 50. She walks Trudy and Lisa through what it is to live a creative life and how giving yourself permission to make art and make mistakes is everything.
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Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
Produced by Odvod Media
Audio Engineering by Steve Glen
Original music by Darrin Hagen