Aimee and Aisling speak with Courtney Johnston the Chief Executive of Te Papa. She joined Te Papa as Director of Audience and Insight in 2018 before being appointed as the youngest Tumu Whakarae Chief Executive in December 2019. She is also a trustee of Arts Wellington, the Wellington Performing Arts Trust and The Pantograph Punch. She was the visual arts commentator for RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme from 2010 to 2019.