Everyone on this panel has built a mine. And in a market that has seen a lot of blow ups recently (Pure Gold; Harte; Red Eagle; Argonaut; Ascot) and also promotors talking a good game and not delivering, we thought it would be interesting for retail investors to listen to people who have actually walked the walk. They highlight the difficulties of building a mine and how they overcame those issues. Listening to this will help investor work out where value is created.