These 2 episodes, which aired in 2017, feature conversations with well known pastor Tony Campolo & his son Bart. Together they wrote the book "Why I Left, Why I Stayed: Conversations on Christianity Between an Evangelical Father and His Humanist Son" Part 1 we discuss how the son of such a rock star minister could walk away from the faith that birthed him, & venture into the foreign territory of secular humanism.
Part 1 is with Bart, Part 2 with Tony.
These are really powerful & frank conversations. You will enjoy.