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Code Replacing Banks, Convergence of Blockchain and AI with David Pinger

Author
serejandmyself
Published
Thu 17 Jul 2025
Episode Link
https://www.citizenweb3.com/davidpinger


This episode of the #citizenweb3 podcast features David Pinger from Warden Protocol

David Pinger envisions a future where AI and blockchain merge to enable trust-minimized, autonomous systems. Known for saying “blockchain isn’t for humans,” he challenges conventional thinking with a bold, machine-first perspective.

Warden Protocol is a Layer-1 blockchain designed for secure, verifiable AI integration with smart contracts and autonomous agents. It enables AI-driven applications to operate across multiple chains in a trust-minimized way.


We spoke to David Pinger about Warden Protocol and:


  • Decentralized trust minimized financial system

  • Converging of blockchain and AI

  • The shoes of the founder

  • Majority of startups fail

  • Blockchain as a panacea

  • Blockchain isn't for humans

  • Blockchain and AI can't naturally talk to each other

  • A wave of a new generation of applications

  • Exercise or go crazy

Timestamps

00:00 – 05:47 : Intro

05:47 -- 10:00 : Valuable lessons brought to Web3

10:00 -- 11:41 : Web3 vs Web2 founders

11:41 -- 13:40 : Developers vs community

13:40 -- 23:00 : Blockchain change

23:00 -- 27:20 : AI centralization

27:20 -- 33:25 : Hype

33:25 -- 38:33 : Optimism, Hope and technology

38:33 -- 48:00 : Tribalism and building community

48:00 -- 52:25 : To be a validator

52:25 -- 58:12 : The Blitz


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