htmx: a new old way to build the web (JS Party #307)

Carson Gross (creator of htmx) & Alex Russell (Mr. Web Platform 3000) join Amal for an EPIC discussion on web architectures, the evolution of rendering patterns & the advantages of hypermedia and htmx. We dive deep on why modern web app best practices are falling short & explore how htmx gives devs an HTML-first approach to use tech that’s over 20 years old.

Tune in to learn a new way to do something old, so you can simplify your code & use JavaScript when/where it’s uniquely able to shine ✨

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Featuring:

• Carson Gross – GitHub, X
• Alex Russell – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X
• Amal Hussein – GitHub, X

Show Notes:

• htmx site and docs


• EPIC htmx Twitter


• Hypermedia Wikipedia


• Hypermedia Systems - A free digital book from Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Aksimsek


• Hypermedia Reintroduction (from Hypermedia Systems book)


• Infrequently - Alex Russell’s EPIC blog


• The Market for Lemons


• Performance Inequality Series from Alex Russell


• Netflix Web Performance Case Study (refactoring the Netflix login to vanilla html, js and css)


• Roy Fielding’s Dissertation on REST


• REST APIs Must Be Hypertext-Driven


• HATEOAS Wikipedia


• Open Web Advocacy Group


• Open UI Group


• The Website vs Web App Dichotomy Doesn’t Exist


• As We May Type


• More Capable Form Controls


• Fun Hacks for Faster Content


• Google jsaction lib on Github


• Intercooler.js (Carson’s precursor to htmx)

Previous Changelog interviews with Carson Gross on htmx:

• Is htmx the way to Go? (Go Time #266)


• Less JavaScript more htmx (JS Party #171)

The Market for Lemons - Diagram on Session & Interaction Depth vs Application Architectures (referenced in our podcast discussion)

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!