If I had to make a list of people (outside of my family) who have influenced my life the most, Mark Lamb is one of them. In many ways, this interview felt like any other phone call with Mark—meaning he exposed my childhood wounds and made me question the entire direction of my life again. Happens every time. Good thing you're enjoying this from the emotional safety of your headphones. Anyway, here's our conversation about discovering healthy rhythms, true love as courage, and our opinions on the state of Arkansas.