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/507/ Put 'General Will' in Charge ft. Philip Cunliffe

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Bungacast
Published
Tue 19 Aug 2025
Episode Link
https://bungacast.podbean.com/e/507-put-general-will-in-charge-ft-philip-cunliffe/

On The National Interest.


Aufhebunga Bunga co-founder and contributing editor Phil Cunliffe joins us to talk about his new book about politics after the age of globalisation. We ask questions about his book – and then put him on trial for wrongthink.


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  • Who is the 'national interest' good for? Is it a domestic or a foreign policy concern?




  • Why did the 'national interest' disappear from our political vocabulary?




  • Is the national interest an abstraction anyone can rhetorically claim? Is that not dangerous?




  • What happens if leading politicians – or elites in general – adopt the national interest? Would this be good or bad?




  • Will Trump's re-assertion of US interests push others to defend theirs?




  • Does the national interest stand against class interests? Is this anti-socialist?




  • Was Stalin-style socialism-in-one-country actually correct? Has Phil come around to supporting Roosevelt-style social democracy?




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