Beyond the Score with John Kleeman
For a century and more, assessment has been slow to evolve. Now, with the availability of highly advanced technologies like AI, it is finally ready to make a quantum leap into its Space Age, giving us new opportunities to reshape how we think about assessment, and how we use it. In this podcast series, industry pioneer John Kleeman talks to experts in a range of fields about the emerging technologies, ideas, and enduring responsibilities that will recast assessment now, and into the future.
- Update frequency
- every 37 days
- Average duration
- 30 minutes
- Episodes
- 45
- Years Active
- 2019 - 2025
2. Beyond Growth: Strategy, culture & the mission of assessment
From scaling PSI through 30+ acquisitions to reshaping assessment delivery, Assessment Industry Executive Steve Tapp joins John Kleeman for a powerful conversation. Steve offers powerful reflections …
1. From Canvas to Care: AI for Lifelong Learners
To kick off the first episode of our revamped podcast series, host John Kleeman goes beyond the score with Melissa Loble, Chief Academic Officer at Instructure, who shares the three pillars guiding I…
Scaling with security: Meazure CEO on the power of flexible proctoring
In this episode of Unlocking the Potential of Assessments, John Kleeman sits down with Timothy McClinton, CEO of Meazure Learning, to explore the future of remote proctoring and its impact on the ass…
The changing face of fairness: context, inclusivity & AI
Join host John Kleeman in an insightful conversation with Dr. Ada Woo, VP of Innovative Learning Sciences at Ascend Learning and seasoned expert in assessment and psychometrics.
Dr. Woo shares her j…
EdTech Revolution: Rethinking Learning Models with Carla Aerts
Join host John Kleeman in an insightful conversation with Carla Aerts, a trailblazer in the reinvention of education. Carla, with an unconventional journey from the performing arts to education techn…
Workday: Being Ready for What’s Next - Skills as Strategy
John Kleeman welcomes Sonny Yuen, Senior Director of Product Strategy at Workday, to discuss the value of assessments in the world of e-learning and corporate learning. Sonny's impressive background …
Ep. 39 – Assessment Luminary, John Weiner, Lifelong Learner Holdings
Host John Kleeman is joined by John Weiner, an expert in the assessment industry with four decades of experience. Until recently, he was Chief Science Officer at PSI, and now has the same role at its…
Ep. 38 – Assessment Luminary, Mark Lynch, Learnosity
Host John Kleeman is joined by Mark Lynch, co-founder of Learnosity, a leading assessment technology company. Mark shares his accidental entry into the field of education and assessment, starting wit…
Ep. 37 – Assessment Luminary, Matt Wingfield, e-Assessment Association
We had the privilege of hosting Matt Wingfield, a renowned expert in the field of assessments and a Chairman of the e-Assessment Association. Speaking with our host, John Kleeman, Matt shares valuabl…
Ep. 36 - Assessment Luminary, Maria Hamdani, Center for Measurement Justice
Maria Hamdani, Vice President of Assessment and Research at the Center for Measurement Justice, joins John Kleeman to discuss the role of assessments in promoting equity and justice in education and …
Ep. 35 - Assessment Luminary, Norihisa Wada, EduLab
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Norihisa Wada, executive adviser of EduLab in Japan, and director of the Japan Institute for Educational Measurement. Nori has experience with AI-driven…
Ep. 34 - Assessment Luminary, Dr. Gary A. Gates, Pearson VUE
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Dr. Gary A. Gates, the Managing Director of Pearson VUE. Originally a nuclear physicist, Dr. Gates details his journey into the world of assessments. He…
Ep. 33 - Assessment Luminary, Mike Olsen, Proctorio
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Mike Olsen, the CEO and Founder of Proctorio. Mike discusses what drove him to create a company focused on proctoring, how it has expanded beyond the ed…
Ep. 32 - Assessment Luminary, Phillip Dawson, Deakin University
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Professor Phillip Dawson, the Associate Director of the Centre for Research in Assessment and Digital Learning (CRADLE) at Australia's Deakin University…
Ep. 31 - Assessment Luminary, Thomas Goettsche, SAP
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Thomas Goettsche, SAP Certification Principal Production and Psychometrics Consultant. A trained psychologist, he has designed key performance indicator…
Ep. 30 - Assessment Luminary, Dylan Wiliam, University College London
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Dylan Wiliam, Emeritus Professor of Educational Assessment at University College London. Dylan's academic work is focused on the use of assessment to su…
Ep. 29 - Assessment Luminary, Isabel Nisbet, University of Cambridge
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Isabel Nisbet, Affiliated Lecturer at the University of Cambridge. Isabel discusses the two fundamentals of fairness, the importance of public confidenc…
Ep. 28 - Assessment Luminary, Will Thalheimer, TiER1
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary, Will Thalheimer, Principal at TiER1. Will details his 30-year journey to becoming a learning expert, which started as an instructional designer, trainer…
Ep. 27 - Assessment Luminary, Siddhartha Gupta, Mercer | Mettl
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary Siddhartha Gupta, CEO of Mercer | Mettl. Over the course of his career, Sid held key leadership positions at some of the most prestigious global IT compa…
Ep. 26 - Assessment Luminary, Suzanne Heiob, SAP
John Kleeman is joined by assessment luminary Suzanne Heiob, the Global Certification Product Owner of SAP, who began her journey with the company as a student. Among her responsibilities, she overse…