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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

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Update frequency
every 6 days
Average duration
52 minutes
Episodes
119
Years Active
2023 - 2025
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Lauren Buss

Lauren Buss

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This day is a long time coming.  After one year teaching, our guest Lauren Buss speaks more intelligently and inspirationally than our hosts combined.  Lauren enlightens us on how to pl…

00:58:47  |   Sat 06 Sep 2025
Russell Peterson

Russell Peterson

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In this episode of Beyond Artless, Peter brings us the extraordinary saxophonist, composer, and educator Russell Peterson, professor of saxophone, bassoon, and jazz at Concordia College…

01:04:04  |   Sat 30 Aug 2025
Season 4 Teaser

Season 4 Teaser

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Season 1 - "Hope"

Season 2 - "Return of the Jackasses"

Season 3 - "The FCC Strikes Back"

Season 4 - "Still Unfunded, Still Unfunny"  - Episode one drops Saturday, Aug 30.


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00:01:36  |   Sat 23 Aug 2025
Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser

Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser

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You've heard the phrase, "needs no introduction." Well, our final guest of Season 3 truly fits the bill—Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser joins us for an inspiring conversation about leading throug…

00:54:08  |   Sat 31 May 2025
Matt Pivec

Matt Pivec

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What happens when you get three Gleasons who play tuba in the same ArtLess episode?
Chaos. Pure, brass-fueled chaos.

Fortunately, we’re joined by the ever-talented Matt Pivec, who brings…

01:07:05  |   Sat 24 May 2025
John Lynch

John Lynch

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Show Notes:
A week late, you say? So is our comedic and musical timing.

You know who does have great timing? Dr. John Lynch, Director of Bands at UW-Stevens Point. It was a real treat to …

00:53:13  |   Sun 18 May 2025
Fran Kick

Fran Kick

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There are leaders and there are followers. Thankfully, Fran Kick joins us this week to lead us through a delightful conversation. Granted, Peter, Phil and Chris DO get lost multiple tim…

00:56:55  |   Sun 11 May 2025
Our Biggest Interview Fail - Sorry Owen! By The Way Who Are You?

Our Biggest Interview Fail - Sorry Owen! By The Way Who Are You?

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We saved the best for last. Enjoy our final interview from our Midwest 2024 booth. This interview features our good friend Owen. Where is he from? Don't know. What does he do? Not sure?…

00:12:36  |   Sat 03 May 2025
Midwest 2024 Compilation 2

Midwest 2024 Compilation 2

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest host…

01:14:33  |   Sat 26 Apr 2025
Michael Markowski

Michael Markowski

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Phil asked one truly insightful question—alongside a few not-so-great ones—but we’re incredibly proud of how much he’s grown. Peter made an impressive comeback in PPTD, while Chris cont…

01:01:03  |   Sat 19 Apr 2025
Laura Dunbar

Laura Dunbar

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Maybe Chris should learn how to take notes.  Maybe Peter should learn how to arrange travel for guests.  Maybe Phil should learn how to interview.  Our guest Dr. Laura Dunbar can do all…

00:57:44  |   Sun 13 Apr 2025
Omar Thomas

Omar Thomas

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It’s hard to mess up a podcast when you have a guest like Omar Thomas. In this episode, we talk with Omar about his incredibly busy and creative schedule, the release of his new album G…

01:09:48  |   Sun 06 Apr 2025
Bill Drury

Bill Drury

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March Madness is in full swing and our guest is providing us all the knowledge our commuter will ever need about Gonzaga basketball.  Bill Drury shares with us about his career as Assoc…

00:56:22  |   Sun 30 Mar 2025
Mickaela Pasch

Mickaela Pasch

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Join us this week as we learn from a young teacher who is much brighter than we are! Mickaela Pasch is a recent Concordia grad changing lives all around the state of Minnesota. Intentio…

01:06:07  |   Sat 22 Mar 2025
Mary Land

Mary Land

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This week, Eric Songer steps in for Phil, delivering a strong performance as co-host. After helping Peter tackle a minor wardrobe noise issue, we dive into a fantastic conversation with…

00:59:38  |   Sat 15 Mar 2025
Michael Kasper

Michael Kasper

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It's a BIG week for this below-average podcast! We wrap up our "Inquiring Teens Want to Know" segment (big thanks to Edina HS) and finally put the "What Would Phil and Peter Do" (WWPPD)…

01:05:05  |   Sun 09 Mar 2025
Henry Dorn

Henry Dorn

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The Lutheran Mafia has strong representation in this week’s episode! We visit with Dr. Henry Dorn from St. Olaf College and get to hear his southern flare mixed with Midwest appreciatio…

01:05:39  |   Sun 02 Mar 2025
Rachel Maxwell

Rachel Maxwell

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That’s it. We’re officially done… with WWPPD. But wait—there’s more good news!

This week, we’re joined by the incredible Rachel Maxwell, a renowned middle school music educator and band …

01:00:48  |   Sat 22 Feb 2025
JoAnne Harris & Alex Tedrow

JoAnne Harris & Alex Tedrow

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Learn more about our guests here:

JoAnne Harris

Alex Tedrow

Audio Credits:

Flickers by Alex Tedrow, JMU Symphonic Band - Oct. 24, 2023
JMU Symphonic Band
Chris DeVona, conductor
Aud…

00:16:32  |   Sun 16 Feb 2025
Jack Kinsella Midwest 2024

Jack Kinsella Midwest 2024

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest host…

00:11:25  |   Sat 08 Feb 2025
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