In this episode, Penny and Verity dive into the often-overlooked reality of creative burnout in the design industry. They share personal experiences of hitting the wall, from the invisible weight of endless admin to the mental toll of constant creative demands. This is an honest, heartfelt conversation about protecting your mental health, finding ways to recharge, and leading with kindness in a fast-paced, high-expectation industry.
They explore why taking breaks is not a luxury but a necessity, the value of being transparent with clients when energy runs low, and how small acts of kindness can lift team morale. The discussion also covers the vital role of mediation in smoothing out design project challenges, the unique energy of co-working spaces, and the leadership qualities that help teams thrive.
A powerful thread throughout is the reminder—especially for women in business—to know their worth and to stop apologising for sending an invoice.
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