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Below the Surface

Casual chats between an Austrian and Australian on environmental topics that usually don't get talked about openly. 

Hosts Gunnar Haid and James Hammond set out to provide a light-hearted and thought-provoking look into Contaminated Land, Resource Recovery, Ecology and general environmental issues in Australia, in particular NSW. They use their experience and industry connections to talk about subjects that, at least in their opinion, don't get talked about enough or not in the right context. Join them for a chuckle and some unique perspectives. 

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The necessary disclaimer: The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this Podcast are the speakers’ own. They do not necessarily represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of 4Pillars Environmental Consulting Pty Ltd or any Client, Supplier or other party related to 4Pillars or the speakers. 

(c) Gunnar Haid and James Hammond

Natural Sciences Earth Sciences Science
Update frequency
every 14 days
Average duration
43 minutes
Episodes
32
Years Active
2024 - 2025
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#32 The EPA CEO

#32 The EPA CEO

Tony Chappel, the CEO of the NSW EPA, is our guest today, so we are definitely back with a bang after the summer holidays. 

Gunnar and James are (surprisingly!) well-prepared and keep the conversation…

00:52:49  |   Fri 05 Sep 2025
#31 The Half Price EV

#31 The Half Price EV

Electric Vehicles are basically half price in Australia right now, thanks to some little-known government incentives. Gunnar and James decided it was the perfect time to talk… tax. Yes, tax. And you …

00:59:45  |   Fri 13 Jun 2025
#30 The Duplicate

#30 The Duplicate

Gunnar claims almost all duplicates we take serve close to no purpose. If you want to know why, have a listen and be entertained and informed at the same time. 

The OGs are back together in this episo…

01:19:26  |   Fri 23 May 2025
#29 The New AS5370 Standard

#29 The New AS5370 Standard

Attention Asbestos in Soils Specialists, there is a new kid in town. The Australian Standard 4964-2004 Method for the qualitative identification of asbestos in bulk samples has been superseded with a…

00:35:00  |   Fri 02 May 2025
#28 The OCSE Odyssey

#28 The OCSE Odyssey

The Office of Chief Scientist and Engineer (OCSE) has issued recommendations concerning asbestos in waste and soil. Sarah Mansfield, Special Counsel (and environmental law superstar) at Norton Rose F…

00:46:09  |   Fri 11 Apr 2025
#27 The Chronicles of an Auditor

#27 The Chronicles of an Auditor

Rod Harwood - do we need to say anything else? 

There are few who have had more influence on our industry and who have contributed more than Rod. Gunnar had a chat with Rod and while they reminisce ab…

00:42:23  |   Fri 21 Mar 2025
#26 The Quickie

#26 The Quickie

Gunnar and James take a dive into all sorts of events that have happened in the past few weeks.

1 - The EIANZ announces the punishment of a member. 

2 - A $30,000 fine issued by a Council

3 - MASSIVE NE…

00:32:23  |   Fri 28 Feb 2025
#25 The Duty to Report

#25 The Duty to Report

The Duty To Report may seem like a peculiar law in our industry, yet it's just another one of the many quirky regulations that shape our environmental consulting world. As such, it was begging to be …

00:45:23  |   Fri 14 Feb 2025
#24 The Recruiter

#24 The Recruiter

Daniel James is someone worth knowing when you are working in our industry. Is he a contaminated sites or resource recovery leader like many of our other guests? No, but he will put you in touch with…

00:50:55  |   Fri 31 Jan 2025
#23 The Basics: Acid Sulfate Soils

#23 The Basics: Acid Sulfate Soils

Acid Sulfate Soils are a tricky subject. The second episode of our "The Basics" series is all about the ASS (oh this acronym is just endlessly amusing, isn't it?). Gunnar and James' guest is Laurie F…

00:55:01  |   Fri 20 Dec 2024
#22 The Basics: Planning

#22 The Basics: Planning

Everything you always wanted to know about planning, but were afraid to ask. If you don't get that movie reference, don't worry, it just means you are much younger than Gunnar, that's all.

We are star…

00:50:41  |   Fri 06 Dec 2024
#21 The Forever Plates

#21 The Forever Plates

Can eco-friendly plates and food containers made from sugarcane mulch sneak in some hidden PFAS? And can that PFAS end up in your compost, and eventually your garden soil? Cara Roberts and David Spri…

00:43:44  |   Fri 22 Nov 2024
#20 The Loophole

#20 The Loophole

Grey Areas and Loopholes – Where to Draw the Line? This episode dives into the murky waters of our industry's "grey areas", or, if we are re being honest, loopholes. From VENM (Virgin Excavated Natur…

00:48:36  |   Fri 08 Nov 2024
#19 The Inventor

#19 The Inventor

In a fictitious world where electricity reigns supreme, Gunnar has "invented" a revolutionary engine that uses ... wait for it ... petrol! That’s right, in this universe, electric engines are the nor…

00:31:20  |   Fri 25 Oct 2024
#18 The Remedial Action Assessment

#18 The Remedial Action Assessment

A re-think of the classic Preliminary Site Assessment => Detailed Site Assessment => Remedial Action Plan scenario. Guest Andrew Kohlrusch, EPA Auditor and contaminated sites expert extraordinaire, j…

00:38:04  |   Fri 11 Oct 2024
#17 The Blueprint

#17 The Blueprint

Australia's landscapes are in serious need of an injection of TLC (Tender Loving Care, not some dyslexic chlorinated hydrocarbon). TLC and a bit of money. $7.3 Billion per year over 10 years to be mo…

00:41:23  |   Fri 27 Sep 2024
#16 The Sparrow in the Lead Mine

#16 The Sparrow in the Lead Mine

Measure lead levels in blood of house sparrows and accurately predict lead blood levels in children in that town. No way? Absolutely YES WAY!

That is exactly what Prof Simon Griffith with his PhD can…

00:46:46  |   Fri 13 Sep 2024
#15 The STEMinist

#15 The STEMinist

How can young (female) professionals tackle the flood of knowledge they must acquire in a fast-paced consulting environment while at the same time having to deal with sometimes perceived but too ofte…

00:46:35  |   Fri 30 Aug 2024
#14 The Honest Truth

#14 The Honest Truth

The EPA names and shames a consultancy for allegedly falsifying reports. Meanwhile clients are beginning to use legal privilege as a strategy to avoid potential subpoenas — just as we anticipated in

00:48:15  |   Fri 16 Aug 2024
#13 The Train Wreck

#13 The Train Wreck

We are thrilled to host Andrew Doig from the Australian Sustainable Business Group, who brings a wealth of knowledge on waste services and legislative review. Andrew guides us through the labyrinth o…

00:33:29  |   Fri 02 Aug 2024
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