Our Sophia Vaughn and her guest Jenn Jarvis are both huge Star Wars fans, but they agree to disagree about the latest film. Their discussion digs deep into J.J. Abrams' epic movie. Then our "First 30" segment is William Wehmer's visit with Deana Butcher, one of the top speech and debate teachers in the nation when she taught at Hillcrest at the same time "HTV Magazine" was starting up 30 years ago. She explains how so many HHS kids benefited from their experience in both programs.