60: Elizabeth Howard Phillips & Kenneth Phillips on their bright light

After learning the fifth round of IVF didn't work out, Elizabeth Howard Phillips realized she couldn't keep putting her body through treatments. Less than two years later, Kenneth Phillips found himself nervously driving Elizabeth and their adopted baby away from the hospital. From their hotel room in Florida, we talk about their journey through infertility, the craziness that comes with adopting a baby during a pandemic, and their new bright light Eleanor. 

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