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#124 - The Path to AGI: Inside poolside’s AI Model Factory for Code with Eiso Kant

Author
Tobias Schlottke - alphalist CTO Podcast
Published
Fri 27 Jun 2025
Episode Link
https://alphalist.com/podcast/124-the-path-to-agi-inside-poolsides-ai-model-factory-for-code-with-eiso-kant

Building Human-Level AI for Code: Model Factories, RL at Scale, and Distributed Teams

Technical Deep Dives:



  • Poolside’s model factory: end-to-end automation from raw data to production models

  • Scaling RL from code execution: 800,000+ containerized repos, millions of agent tasks

  • Immutable versioning with Apache Iceberg for full traceability

  • Distributed team structure: 120+ engineers across US/EU, monthly in-person sprints

  • Hardware orchestration: 10,000+ H200s, hot swap failover, dynamic allocation

  • Leadership: dividing responsibilities, low-ego culture, and the MIT principle

  • Future of software: managing agent workforces, context window strategies, continual learning


"Our model factory runs thousands of experiments before a single production model is trained. It’s an empirical science—every component, from data ingestion to evals, is versioned and traceable." – Eiso Kant


Chapters:
[00:04:28] Poolside’s unique approach to foundation models
[00:13:02] Scaling hardware: 10,000+ H200s and orchestration
[00:17:42] RL, agents, and the future of developer tools
[00:24:56] Immutable versioning and evaluation frameworks
[00:36:04] Distributed team structure and monthly sprints
[00:40:26] Leadership, decision-making, and low-ego culture
[00:45:54] Lessons for CTOs: breaking process dogma, preparing for agent-driven orgs
[00:50:54] The next 3 years: AGI, agent workforces, and the end of manual coding
[00:53:44] Context window, continual learning, and model memory
[00:56:20] Everything collapses into the model: product, research, and daily life
[00:59:46] Advice to a younger self: scale compute, trust RL+LM, and the four-minute mile

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