Steve Anderson "Disney the In-Between Years Part 5

We all know the how this story turns out. Disney gets back on track and becomes the behemoth that it is. But let us listen to Steve Anderson and hear what he has to tell us about the final years of "The In-between Years". We are going to discuss some movies that are beyond comprehension such as "The Black Hole", and "The Black Cauldron". How do these stand the test of time and how do they compare to other movies that came out at that time?