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DeepSeek R2 An Atom Bomb For USA BigTech

Author
Pragmatic AI Labs
Published
Sat 15 Mar 2025
Episode Link
podcast.paiml.com

Podcast Notes: DeepSeek R2 - The Tech Stock "Atom Bomb"

Overview

  • DeepSeek R2 could heavily impact tech stocks when released (April or May 2025)
  • Could threaten OpenAI, Anthropic, and major tech companies
  • US tech market already showing weakness (Tesla down 50%, NVIDIA declining)

Cost Claims

  • DeepSeek R2 claims to be 40 times cheaper than competitors
  • Suggests AI may not be as profitable as initially thought
  • Could trigger a "race to zero" in AI pricing

NVIDIA Concerns

  • NVIDIA's high stock price depends on GPU shortage continuing
  • If DeepSeek can use cheaper, older chips efficiently, threatens NVIDIA's model
  • Ironically, US chip bans may have forced Chinese companies to innovate more efficiently

The Cloud Computing Comparison

  • AI could follow cloud computing's path (AWS → Azure → Google → Oracle)
  • Becoming a commodity with shrinking profit margins
  • Basic AI services could keep getting cheaper ($20/month now, likely lower soon)

Open Source Advantage

  • Like Linux vs Windows, open source AI could dominate
  • Most databases and programming languages are now open source
  • Closed systems may restrict innovation

Global AI Landscape

  • Growing distrust of US tech companies globally
  • Concerns about data privacy and government surveillance
  • Countries might develop their own AI ecosystems
  • EU could lead in privacy-focused AI regulation

AI Reality Check

  • LLMs are "sophisticated pattern matching," not true intelligence
  • Compare to self-checkout: automation helps but humans still needed
  • AI will be a tool that changes work, not a replacement for humans

Investment Impact

  • Tech stocks could lose significant value in next 2-6 months
  • Chip makers might see reduced demand
  • Investment could shift from AI hardware to integration companies or other sectors

Conclusion

  • DeepSeek R2 could trigger "cascading failure" in big tech
  • More focus on local, decentralized AI solutions
  • Human-in-the-loop approach likely to prevail
  • Global tech landscape could look very different in 10 years

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